From seidensticker@msn.com Tue Mar 27 19:44:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Seidensticker@msn.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 03:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 54295 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 03:44:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 03:44:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bilbo.w-link.net) (206.98.114.20) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 03:44:29 -0000 Received: from bobsprimary (dhcp130-dsl-gte3.w-link.net [206.129.86.130]) by bilbo.w-link.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA19426 for ; Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:41:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <002501c0b739$6af2f4a0$825681ce@wlink.net> To: Subject: Re: lojban audial recognition etc. Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:44:39 -0800 Organization: Microsoft Corporation X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 From: "seidensticker" From: "A.W.T." Subject: lojban audial recognition etc. ... >BTW, IMHO one reason for new Lojban-interested people getting bored off and leaving again might be long philosophical threads of the DJUNO/KRICI kind - whereas basic vocabulary to express ourselves is still missing or at least not at all obvious! (like: "already"/"still", "not yet"/"no longer" etc. - Don't remember the old thread about this topic, which - as far I recall - had no real conclusion: naza'o/za'onai ???) Shouldn't we better leave the ivory tower and turn toward people instead of discussing "linguistic" specialties as sort of an oblivious and eccentric navel gazing? _________________ I agree with the concern. While it's great to see lots of email activity in the lojban group (this month has had, by far, the largest # of postings over the past 2.5 years), I find it cumbersome to wade through much email that doesn't interest me. I can certainly see newcomers becoming discouraged by irrelevant (to them) email. What about creating another Yahoo group? There could be lojban (how to best learn Lojban) and lojban2 (philosophical discussions and word debate). Newcomers could sign up for the former until they're interested in participating in the lojban2 debates. I'm sure there's a better split into 2 or 3 groups than I've suggested above -- any ideas?