From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed Mar 28 09:38:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 28 Mar 2001 17:38:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 61894 invoked from network); 28 Mar 2001 17:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Mar 2001 17:38:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Mar 2001 17:38:21 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28346; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:40:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AC2221D.3@reutershealth.com> Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:40:45 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-22 i686; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010215 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta Cc: pycyn , lojban Subject: Re: djuno: the key issue (was: Re: Fwd: Re: [lojban] Random lojban questions/... References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan And scripsit: > #No, I hold (II) as well. > > So you deny that "crucially, the known must be true in the epistemology"? Hmm, now I think I would rather hold (I). Arrgh. The trouble with argument is that it destroys our comforting certitudes. > It is enough that the x1 claim that the known is true? So if on the basis > of our common epistemology you believed that Sydney was the capital > of Australia, I could say "John djuno that Sydney is the cap. of A, fo > our mutual epistemology"? No, I can't swallow that. How about this intermediate position: x1 must believe that x2 follows from x4. After all, from an inconsistent theory of any sort, every proposition whatever follows. But we don't want to say of people with inconsistent theories (most of us, belike) that they know everything, or even think they know everything. -- There is / one art || John Cowan no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein