From sbelknap@xxx.xxxx Fri Apr 16 16:15:02 1999 X-Digest-Num: 116 Message-ID: <44114.116.629.959273824@eGroups.com> Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:15:02 -0500 From: Steven Belknap Vjacxeslav' Ivanov' scripsit: > >> You seem to accuse me of being maybe even a racist! It's not fare >> of you. I don't feel hate to any language or nationality, maybe >> because I am so fond of languages. I live in the Caucasus and we >> have here so many languages of every language family, that I don't >> devide already languages into "human" and "not-human". > >I am very glad to hear it. My Esperanto is not all it could be; >perhaps I misinterpreted your use of "humane". > >> Let us stop >> the discussion of how the Lojban sounds. To tell you the truth, I >> never heard Lojban speech. The only thing that I want to say again >> and again, is that for me , as a young member of Lo??an society, >> it's a very great pity, that we are in different camps now. And >> the camps are too often military ones, uu. > >So say we all. > >> You say that Dr.Brown >> is higly appriciated in all Lojban texts. Maybe. But why haven't >> you appriciated him then, when your people made that split?! > >At that time, the Loglan Institute was claiming a copyright on >every word of the language, and as a result, on everything published >in it, written by whatever author. (Private conversations and >letters were allowed by license.) > >I have written documentation of this claim. > >Lojban is and always has been in >the public domain, as to its basic word lists, machine grammars, etc. >and even our published grammar book has a very generous license >allowing reproduction without payment to us. > >> There >> cannot be any excuse. You could lead your negotiations till some >> peace. And now, know it, the younger generation on both sides is >> very angry of both sides' chiefs, who made the movement be twice >> weak in both directions. > >I agree; but we have tried for a rapprochement several times with >no success. The Institute's terms have always been the same: >total capitulation or no discussion at all. We cannot accept this. > >As one who never knew Dr. Brown personally, I regret this state of >affairs immensely. I have no resentment toward him or the Loglan >community. > >-- >John Cowan cowan@ccil.org > e'osai ko sarji la lojban. Steven Belknap, M.D. Assistant Professor of Clinical Pharmacology and Medicine University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria