From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Mar 29 18:19:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 02:19:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 71130 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 02:19:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 02:19:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.247) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 02:19:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:19:50 -0800 Received: from 200.41.247.46 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:19:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.46] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] the reason for x4 of {djuno}? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 02:19:50 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Mar 2001 02:19:50.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[E603B1C0:01C0B8BF] From: "Jorge Llambias" la aulun cusku di'e >There's >only *one* world the user of language live in, and *one* truth! Yes, "there is one truth, even if nobody knows what it is" sounds less metaphorical than "there are a myriad conflicting truths, and everybody knows their own". >As for myself: I don't think ever having any use for the x4-place of >{djuno} and I surely won't accept >another truth in my daily job dealing with murder cases than the *one* ;-) >(which very often proves to be >complicated enough). Well, I can't imagine the x4 of djuno (and x2 of jetnu) as being anything other than the common epistemology that speaker and audience must share in order to communicate successfully. Other uses sound artificial to me, but let's see how it turns out in practice. >co'omi'e .aulun. (zo'o noi *krici* le du'u su'o ki'orgra belo bakre'u cu >zbasu lo xamgu stasu) i pau le bakre'u cu zbasu gi'i te zbasu le stasu i ji'a le bakre'u cu ki'ogra be li su'o gi'enai se ki'ogra co'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.