From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Mar 30 05:03:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_0_4); 30 Mar 2001 13:03:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 4236 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2001 13:03:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Mar 2001 13:03:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Mar 2001 13:03:35 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (209-8-89-100.dynamic.cais.com [209.8.89.100]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2UD3YN55166 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:03:34 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010330080403.00b70a10@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:07:15 -0500 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] the reason for x4 of {djuno}? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 04:00 AM 03/30/2001 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: >la xod cusku di'e > > > And why would we want to claim those bad scientific stances > > > as truths? > > > >Because they are accepted as Truth by all learned men except a few kooks > >before the paradigm shift. > >You are confusing me. Are you saying that truth is whatever >learned men say is truth? That is one commonly used epistemology - that of authority. And when authorities disagree, truth can be inconsistent. > >You didn't notice, > >because usually it's the same x4: the standard cloud of "reasonable" > >Western ideas. > >I find many "Eastern" ideas reasonable too, to the extent that >I'm familiar with them, but I hesitate to call cloudy ideas, >"Eastern" or "Western", truths. That is you. Others of a more mystical bent WILL want to call them truths. At least with Lojban, they have to distinguish whether they mean fatci or jetnu or seldjuno. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org