From graywyvern@hotmail.com Mon Apr 16 08:21:44 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 16 Apr 2001 15:21:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 69984 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2001 15:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Apr 2001 15:21:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.236.166) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Apr 2001 15:21:42 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:21:42 -0700 Received: from 209.176.48.59 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:21:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.176.48.59] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: toldjuno Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 15:21:42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Apr 2001 15:21:42.0857 (UTC) FILETIME=[F10FCB90:01C0C688] From: "michael helsem" >From: "And Rosta" li'o > >xorxes noted that "know" at least has the peculiarity that > > to say someonne does not know x implies that x is true as much as to say >that > > someone does know x. i'm tending now to think SE SLABU is better than DJUNO for this purpose. (or BA'O CILRE.) li'o > >{toldjuno} for the corresponding > > expression. and needing a word for "mystery" ('the opposite-of-the-knower'), i prefer NALJU'O for 'is ignorant of'; & otherwise SREJI'I. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com