From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 17 16:59:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 17 Apr 2001 23:59:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 77227 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 23:59:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Apr 2001 23:59:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 23:59:27 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14pfNW-0007Z3-00 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:26 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:26 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Dictionary format Message-ID: <20010417165926.E26996@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <01041501150602.16694@neofelis> <01041719201508.29765@neofelis> <20010417163914.C26996@digitalkingdom.org> <01041719525609.29765@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <01041719525609.29765@neofelis>; from phma@oltronics.net on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:47:23PM -0400 From: Robin Lee Powell On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 07:47:23PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > >> Check out le gismu tersisku. > > > >And that would be....? > > http://aididit.dynip.com/~phma/gismu.php3 > > >> And how would you format the English-Lojban side? > > > >Dunno. Probably: > > > >animal danlu [dal, da'u] > > x1 is an animal/creature of species x2; x1 is > > biologically animate > > > > (cf. banfi, cinki, cipni, finpe, jukni, respa, since, > > mabru, bakni) > > If you're going to provide a long explanation on the English-Lojban side, it > should be in Lojban, the rafsi should be English rafsi (such as tri- for > three), and the cross-references should be to English words. Oh. Right. _Duh_. My bad. For the time being, then, I'd probably just do: animal: danlu [dal, da'u] but if I was going to do a full explication, it'd be _long_. The Webster definition is: 1an-i-mal \'an-e-mel\ n [L, fr. animale, neut. of animalis animate, fr. anima soul -- more at ANIMATE] (14c) 1: any of a kingdom (Animalia) of living beings typically differing from plants in capacity for spontaneous movement and rapid motor response to stimulation 2a: one of the lower animals as distinguished from human beings 2b: MAMMAL 3: a human being considered chiefly with regard to his physical or nonrational nature; also: this nature 4: an individual with a particular interest or aptitude 5: MATTER, THING -- an-i-mal-like \-mel-,(l)[0xF5]^-k\ adj -- an-i-mal-ness \-mel-nes\ n 2animal adj (1615) 1: of, relating to, or derived from animals 2a: of or relating to the physical or sentient as contrasted with the intellectual or rational 2b: SENSUAL, FLESHLY 3: of or relating to the animal pole of an egg or to the part from which ectoderm normally develops syn see CARNAL -- an-i-mal-ly \-me-le^-\ adv and if we were actually trying to do a real dictionary, we'd need to have entries, or sub-entries, for each of those meanings. -Robin, not volunteering. 8) -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/