From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Apr 18 14:03:46 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 18 Apr 2001 21:03:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 75222 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 21:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Apr 2001 21:03:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 21:03:42 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic116.cl7.cais.net [205.177.20.116]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IL3a515907; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:03:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010418165408.00c2f100@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:07:09 -0400 To: Value Yourself , Subject: Re: [lojban] Events In-Reply-To: References: <20010418192553.22344.cpmta@c000.snv.cp.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 04:17 PM 04/18/2001 -0400, Value Yourself wrote: >On 18 Apr 2001 david@shockey.com wrote: > > > This is well outside of my areas of expertise, but, it would seem to me > that time would have no meaning without events. > > >Empty points of spacetime are called "events", whether or not anything >important occurs there. > >If anyone disputes this use of the word "event", they can go to > > >I understand the difference between this and the nu abstractor. My >question remains; was there a connection in the minds of those who decided >to use the english word "event"? As the other mind in question (other than pc), I have to say that relativity theory was the last thing on my mind at the time, though in later discussions of tense, I believe I was one the people who brought in the spacetime analogy for spatial tenses. My use of the term "event" for "nu" came from pc's description of Aristotelian event analysis. I suspect that JCB's earlier analysis was similarly based on ancient logical-philosophical traditions, though pc could probably better tell you which ones. He often used the phrasing "event, state, or condition". lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org