From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Apr 18 14:14:36 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 18 Apr 2001 21:14:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 5641 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 21:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Apr 2001 21:14:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 21:14:33 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic116.cl7.cais.net [205.177.20.116]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3ILEW516735 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010418171442.00be4b60@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:18:08 -0400 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Three more issues In-Reply-To: References: <3ADB1FD7.4090900@reutershealth.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 10:00 PM 04/18/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote: >John to Avital: > > > I mean, is lo valsi, isn't it? > > > > No. > >I think this is an unresolved issue, whether or >not we simplify the claim to " cu valsi" >(or, equivalently, "The Beatles cu prenu"). The >unresolved issue is whether pa valsi is a single >word (in which case the claim is false) or a single >amount of wordage (in which case the claim is true). >I guess usage favours the former. A single word is the smallest unit of valsi (valsi selci). In general, count nouns are counts of selci, though we have examples of mass nouns that are counted otherwise (ci birje - don't ask me what a birje selci would be). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org