From pycyn@aol.com Fri Apr 20 14:04:58 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 20 Apr 2001 21:04:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 42049 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2001 21:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 20 Apr 2001 21:04:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r13.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.67) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2001 21:04:56 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.9.) id r.15.13062c8a (4340) for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <15.13062c8a.2811fe5c@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 17:04:28 EDT Subject: Re: tanru [was: RE: [lojban] Three more issues To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_15.13062c8a.2811fe5c_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_15.13062c8a.2811fe5c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/19/2001 5:59:26 PM Central Daylight Time, graywyvern@hotmail.com writes: > fu'e.o'onairu'e pe'ipei srera xaksu fa mi le nuntroci temci > lepu'u finti le bi'unai broda cei skutcaci co lobykai .i xu > zasti fa le drata be la'edi'u .i pa'e lo broda ba binxo fi ma > .onai le nuntroci pesekai leka mibypre fu'o .i to'u ko mintu > zukte gi'ebabo te cmene fa la xlali fe le jalge be le nuntroci > nanca poi zirpu ja lojbo > A case in point: "Rant: How should I feel I mistakenly wasted time in attempting...[syntax break here] ... the creation of whatchamacallits, i.e. characteristic Lojban modes of expression. Does any other exist aside from the referent of the last sentence? Under what conditions, honestly, will these whatchamacallits change unless attempts possessing me-person-ness? End Rant. Do likewise and then the bad will call the results of the purple and lojbanic years of attempts names." Answers: Shitty. Yes (I have a couple hundred pages under analysis, of which only about thirty are yours -- and they include considerable English, fortunately). Lots of other people use the language for lots of things, not just short stories, tirades, and cryptic suggestions. Last sentence changed to "the results of the purple and Lojbanic years will be called bad." Note: I called your stuff hard to follow and frequently unclear (see above), not bad in any esthetic sense, and often not even in a grammatical one. I'd love to take your advice, but my expertise -- if any -- lies elsewhere, so I stick to tht last for now. --part1_15.13062c8a.2811fe5c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 4/19/2001 5:59:26 PM Central Daylight Time,
graywyvern@hotmail.com writes:

fu'e.o'onairu'e pe'ipei srera xaksu fa mi le nuntroci temci
lepu'u finti le bi'unai broda cei skutcaci co lobykai .i xu
zasti fa le drata be la'edi'u .i pa'e lo broda ba binxo fi ma
.onai le nuntroci pesekai leka mibypre fu'o .i to'u ko mintu
zukte gi'ebabo te cmene fa la xlali fe le jalge be le nuntroci
nanca poi zirpu ja lojbo

A case in point:
"Rant: How should I feel I mistakenly wasted time in attempting...[syntax
break here]
... the creation of whatchamacallits, i.e. characteristic Lojban modes of
expression. Does any other exist aside from the referent of the last
sentence? Under what conditions, honestly, will these whatchamacallits
change unless attempts possessing me-person-ness? End Rant.
Do likewise and then the bad will call the results of the purple and
lojbanic years of attempts names."
Answers: Shitty. Yes (I have a couple hundred pages under analysis, of which
only about thirty are yours -- and they include considerable English,
fortunately). Lots of other people use the language for lots of things, not
just short stories, tirades, and cryptic suggestions.

Last sentence changed to "the results of the purple and Lojbanic years will
be called bad."
Note: I called your stuff hard to follow and frequently unclear (see above),
not bad in any esthetic sense, and often not even in a grammatical one.

I'd love to take your advice, but my expertise -- if any -- lies elsewhere,
so I stick to tht last for now. --part1_15.13062c8a.2811fe5c_boundary--