From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Fri Apr 20 18:54:05 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 21 Apr 2001 01:54:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 82499 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2001 01:54:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Apr 2001 01:54:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta07-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.47) by mta3 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2001 01:54:05 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.252.12.3]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010421015402.KXNM285.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:54:02 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Three more issues Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 02:53:03 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" Avital: > On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, And Rosta wrote: > > > John to Avital: > > > > I mean, is lo valsi, isn't it? > > > No. > > I think this is an unresolved issue, whether or > > not we simplify the claim to " cu valsi" > > (or, equivalently, "The Beatles cu prenu"). The > > unresolved issue is whether pa valsi is a single > > word (in which case the claim is false) or a single > > amount of wordage (in which case the claim is true). > > I guess usage favours the former. > > I don't seem to understand. Why aren't several words cu valsi? What does > it matter what a pa valsi is? SOmething told me that Lojban does not > specify number if not specifically specified (that sounded like crap). > > ??? "nu" is valsi, and "prenu" is valsi, and "kei" is valsi. But is the sequence "nu prenu kei" valsi? Lojbab and usage would say No. In other words, valsi = valsi pa mei, and "nu prenu kei" is valsi ci mei. --And.