From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Apr 24 12:43:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 24 Apr 2001 19:43:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 49477 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2001 19:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Apr 2001 19:43:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2001 19:43:44 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (72.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.72]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3OJhgr94874 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:43:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010424153946.00c3b370@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 15:46:51 -0400 To: Subject: Re: Beatles (was: RE: [lojban] Three more issues) In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010422220339.00b66f00@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 02:20 AM 04/24/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote: > > >Does {la bitlz} mean (a) "each of those x such that I am calling x > 'bitlz'", > > >or (b) "each member of the group that I am calling 'bitlz'", or (c) > > "the thing > > >I am calling 'bitlz'"? (a) wouldn't work, because I'm not calling Ringo > > >'bitlz'. (c) wouldn't work, because I'm calling the group 'bitlz', and > > >the group is not a minimal unit of person. (b) would work, but then > > >"la bitlz cu girzu" would, undesirably, be false. > > > > la bitlz goi la djan joi la paul joi la djordj joi la ringos cu prenu gi'e > > girzu > >ro prenu girzu na ku prenu .i >loi se du'u ro prenu cu prenu pa mei kei pu se cusku la lojbab .i >ro prenu su'o re mei na ku prenu pa mei mi cusku le sedu'u la bitlz cu gunma .i lo gunma cu girzu gi'e pamei. .i mi na cusku tu'a ro prenu .ijeku'i cusku piro ba'e lei prenu cu prenu gi'e girzu .i mi'e lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org