From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 24 22:36:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 25 Apr 2001 05:36:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 9825 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2001 05:36:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Apr 2001 05:36:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2001 05:36:38 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14sHyg-0004wi-00 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:36:38 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:36:38 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Usage of logical connectives? Message-ID: <20010424223638.Z8953@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from jjllambias@hotmail.com on Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:50:43AM +0000 From: Robin Lee Powell On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:50:43AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la robyspir cusku di'e > > >Since the truth value of a command is whether that command is carried out, > >what > >would be wrong with: > > > >ko nicygau ledo kumfa .ijo do kakne lenu klama le panka > > Probably {mi curmi le nu do klama le panka} is better than {kakne}. > > It's not that the sentence is wrong, it is just that it doesn't > really have the intended meaning. It says that the two events > are true together or false together, it does not say that the > permission to go to the park is a consequence of the child > cleaning up the room, nor that the parent wants the child > to clean up the room. It doesn't say "I want you to clean up > your room, and your recompense for doing it will be my permission > to go to the park". Maybe the English doesn't really say all that > either, maybe it only implicates it, and we can do the same > in Lojban, but then our children won't learn to think > logically... :) OK, so, then once again I have to ask: What is the use of the logical connectives? What information do they transmit to the user? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/