From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Tue Apr 24 22:38:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 25 Apr 2001 05:38:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 42227 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2001 05:38:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Apr 2001 05:38:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2001 05:38:23 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14sI0M-0004xD-00 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:38:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:38:22 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Usage of logical connectives? Message-ID: <20010424223822.A8953@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20010424223638.Z8953@digitalkingdom.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010424223638.Z8953@digitalkingdom.org>; from rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org on Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:36:38PM -0700 From: Robin Lee Powell On Tue, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:36:38PM -0700, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2001 at 12:50:43AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > > > la robyspir cusku di'e > > > > >Since the truth value of a command is whether that command is carried out, > > >what > > >would be wrong with: > > > > > >ko nicygau ledo kumfa .ijo do kakne lenu klama le panka > > > > Probably {mi curmi le nu do klama le panka} is better than {kakne}. > > > > It's not that the sentence is wrong, it is just that it doesn't > > really have the intended meaning. It says that the two events > > are true together or false together, it does not say that the > > permission to go to the park is a consequence of the child > > cleaning up the room, nor that the parent wants the child > > to clean up the room. It doesn't say "I want you to clean up > > your room, and your recompense for doing it will be my permission > > to go to the park". Maybe the English doesn't really say all that > > either, maybe it only implicates it, and we can do the same > > in Lojban, but then our children won't learn to think > > logically... :) > > OK, so, then once again I have to ask: > > What is the use of the logical connectives? What information do they > transmit to the user? s/user/listener/ -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/