From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Apr 30 14:00:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 21:00:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 55757 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 21:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 21:00:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 21:00:29 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14uKmS-0007IK-00 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:00:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 14:00:28 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Predicate logic and childhood. Message-ID: <20010430140028.A27753@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <20010430114521.C20818@digitalkingdom.org> <20010430155318.B504@twcny.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010430155318.B504@twcny.rr.com>; from rob@twcny.rr.com on Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:53:18PM -0400 From: Robin Lee Powell On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 03:53:18PM -0400, Rob Speer wrote: > Okay, I should have looked a little harder. Your C does have a 'ko' in it. Correct. Note that either ko binding stops at the .ijo, or jbofi'e has a bug in it. > So this raises these questions: > > - Would the sentence still work if it had 'do' instead of 'ko'? Not IMO, because then C becomes: You have now/are now cleaned/cleaning your room. It seems unlikely that the parent would need an enticement for something that has already occured. > - If there is a 'ko' in C, is it asking the child to make C true or to make > .ijo true? C. I have _no_ idea where people are getting this idea that ko carries across a logical connective between sentences, but the grammar doesn't seem to bear this out. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/