From lojbab@lojban.org Mon Apr 30 15:50:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 30 Apr 2001 22:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 20794 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2001 22:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 Apr 2001 22:50:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-5.cais.net) (205.252.14.75) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2001 22:50:36 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (209-8-89-145.dial-up.cais.com [209.8.89.145] (may be forged)) by stmpy-5.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3UMoYM94676 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:50:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010430184529.00c66240@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 18:53:33 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] lujvo place structures In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 09:51 PM 04/30/2001 +0000, michael helsem wrote: > >From: Bob LeChevalier-Logical Language Group > li'o > >Such a program would take the tanru > >for any lujvo and generate the place structure that lujvo would have if no > >places were combined or deleted, using the standard codes and conventions > >for labelling the places. > >except that wouldn't someone still have to decide from the >semantic content, whether the JE-lujvo or the BE-lujvo >conventions should be followed? Certainly. But the time-consuming lookup would be eliminated, and the typing in standard format made fairly rigorous (and a really sophisticated tool of the kind I am NOT asking for, would allow people to click on places to delete or combine them or reorder them according to the relevant rules - that might be a good LONG-TERM project that might involve significant playing around to find the ideal interface, but I don't want work held up waiting for people to concoct the ideal user interface - what I suggested eliminates time-consuming typing and lookup and encourages a standard format). If there is more than one standard order for places, we obviously have to choose one or the other order as a default for listing all the places, presumably the more common one. Someone can look at the lujvo already defined to see what is the most common order. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org