From arosta@uclan.ac.uk Tue May 01 09:55:01 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: arosta@uclan.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 1 May 2001 16:54:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 33988 invoked from network); 1 May 2001 14:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2001 14:20:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO com1.uclan.ac.uk) (193.61.255.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 May 2001 14:20:07 -0000 Received: from gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk by com1.uclan.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer); Tue, 1 May 2001 15:01:41 +0100 Received: from DI1-Message_Server by gwise-gw1.uclan.ac.uk with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 01 May 2001 15:21:46 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:21:31 +0100 To: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Predicate logic and childhood. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline From: And Rosta Robin Lee Powell: #I have _no_ idea where people are getting this idea that ko carries #across a logical connective between sentences, but the grammar doesn't #seem to bear this out. Inter alia, it is perhaps an intuitive awareness of the fact that the=20 illocutionary operator component of ko, "I hereby command that", has maximally wide scope over other elements, so that=20 ko broda da means=20 I hereby command that there be some da such that do broda da and not There is some da such that I hereby command that do broda da which cannot be expressed in Lojban satisfactorily. --And.