From phma@oltronics.net Thu May 03 05:44:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 3 May 2001 12:44:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 93942 invoked from network); 3 May 2001 12:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 May 2001 12:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (207.15.133.40) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 May 2001 12:43:35 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id F16BF3C56F; Thu, 3 May 2001 08:36:39 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Change Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 08:33:39 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <3.0.5.32.20010503104056.0121fec0@pop.stud.ntnu.no> In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20010503104056.0121fec0@pop.stud.ntnu.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0105030836390C.01065@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Thu, 03 May 2001, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: >>but the problem is that "galfi" is missing a place. The concept I want a word >>for is "x1 changes x2 from x3 to x4". How can that be said in Lojban? > >I don't understand why you think that the x2 is different from x3. Can you >explain? x1 (the gardener) is changing x2 (the rose) from x3 (white) to x4 (red). It's still a rose, but now it's red. This concept sounds like it might be applicable to changing cmeclax's keys too. phma