From graywyvern@hotmail.com Sun May 13 13:46:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 May 2001 20:46:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 77545 invoked from network); 13 May 2001 20:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 May 2001 20:45:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.237.244) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 May 2001 20:45:47 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 13 May 2001 13:45:47 -0700 Received: from 65.67.96.113 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 13 May 2001 20:45:47 GMT X-Originating-IP: [65.67.96.113] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Look! I found an error! Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 20:45:47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 May 2001 20:45:47.0714 (UTC) FILETIME=[B040C220:01C0DBED] From: "michael helsem" >From: Arnt Richard Johansen li'o in fact no lojban vowel directly corresponds to anything in english, except .ybu --it's unfortunate when the target is anglophones, but italian et al map nicely-- our "long O" & "long E" aren't .obu & .ibu but diphthongs; & our "short E" & "short O" have way too many pronunciations to be of much use for .ebu & .abu --i suppose a case can be made for .ubu as "long OO", except noone but a native speaker can make head or tail of "long OO" & "short OO" & i doubt any of THEM can explain why this one or that one... _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com