From pycyn@aol.com Wed May 30 12:31:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 30 May 2001 19:31:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 56439 invoked from network); 30 May 2001 19:31:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 30 May 2001 19:31:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r09.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.105) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 May 2001 19:31:57 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.cd.7388e61 (14383) for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:31:52 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Request for grammar clarifications To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_cd.7388e61.2846a4a8_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_cd.7388e61.2846a4a8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/2001 1:28:37 PM Central Daylight Time, rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org writes: > "me " means that > > the x1 is one or more of the referents of . This is not the > > same as "du"; it is the same as ordinary predication, if the > > is veridical: ko'a me lo mlatu = ko'a mlatu. > > Then I'm not sure that I see it as being useful. Although I'm probably > missing something. > I doubt it. Every use of {me} seems to have a more natural expressions using {du}, possibly with {pa} if there is some doubt about quantity. --part1_cd.7388e61.2846a4a8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 5/30/2001 1:28:37 PM Central Daylight Time,
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org writes:


"me <sumti>" means that
> the x1 is one or more of the referents of <sumti>.  This is not the
> same as "du"; it is the same as ordinary predication, if the <sumti>
> is veridical:  ko'a me lo mlatu = ko'a mlatu.

Then I'm not sure that I see it as being useful.  Although I'm probably
missing something.

I doubt it.  Every use of {me} seems to have a more natural expressions using
{du}, possibly with {pa} if there is some doubt about quantity.   
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