From cowan@ccil.org Fri Jun 01 12:24:12 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 19:24:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 95555 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 19:23:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 19:23:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 19:23:41 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 155uWM-0002cU-00; Fri, 01 Jun 2001 15:23:42 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] zo by In-Reply-To: <9.164dffb9.2848ad59@aol.com> from "pycyn@aol.com" at "Jun 1, 2001 04:33:29 am" To: pycyn@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 15:23:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan pycyn@aol.com scripsit: > {by} is used as a variable or an anaphora, so {by lerfu} is ambiguous > in context and certainly not always true. Typically it is false, unless the antecedent of "by" is "by", which is not typical. > /b/ is a token of the type [b] and {by} stands for the type, so "This > is "b"" is probably (in the present sense) {ti me by}. No, that still involves the anaphora. > Maybe this is all backwards and {by} should stand for the sound (but > freeze is in effect) and then the letter would be {bybu} (like Sanskrit, a > much more oral tradition). The Right Thing is "me'o by", where "me'o" is the article meaning "the mathematical expression ...". > Failing that, I suppose the sound has to be "the b-sound" {le > bybusrsance} -- maybe {lo} and surely needing some cleaning up as a whatever > the heck it turns out to be. That will work. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter