From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Fri Jun 01 15:19:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 18126 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fj.egroups.com) (10.1.10.46) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 22:19:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.10.67] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2001 22:19:05 -0000 Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 22:19:00 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: the muezzin's cry Message-ID: <9f94ck+fpqq@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <01060114275001.29552@neofelis> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 889 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "A.W.T." --- In lojban@y..., Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2001, Invent Yourself wrote: > >Was this word in existence before Islam though? > > Yes, and it has its cognates in Hebrew Eloah and Akkadian Ili (the latter is a > word I remember from some children's version of Gilgamesh which had a few > sentences of Akkadian in it). > > I still suggest {ala'uC} where C is some consonant. "Allah" sometimes occurs as > "Allahu" where "-u" is the nominative ending; it also occurs as "Allahi" but > Lojbanizing that would produce an invalid cmene. I disagree: don't think that it's a nominative ending. The phrase is e.g. Allah hu akbar! As for God, he is great! {la cevni zo'u barda/banli/mujbra}. "hu" is a personal pronoun, the verb "is" is not expressed, e.g. like in Russian or Hungarian ("Nagy az Isten"). Hence something like {la .alax.} doesn't seem too bad. .aulun.