From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Jun 05 20:19:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 6 Jun 2001 03:19:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 90747 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 03:19:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jun 2001 03:19:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.19) by mta3 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 03:19:32 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:19:32 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.213 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:19:31 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.213] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] More Alice Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 03:19:31 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jun 2001 03:19:32.0013 (UTC) FILETIME=[80EEF5D0:01C0EE37] From: "Jorge Llambias" la djan cusku di'e > > i le NI darno le GLIco cu ni JIBni be la FRANs > >Note that this NI must be followed by a pause. That shouldn't be a problem, there are also several other words in the song that require pauses. In any case, I'm not certain why this particular pause is needed. What could be the ambiguity? It cannot absorb the following word to form a brivla, even if the stress of darno were somehow missed. The rule as formulated requires that every cmavo that ends with a stress and is followed by a brivla be separated by a pause, but the rule is overly strict, isn't it? (This is actually the only line where the secondary beat stress falls in the wrong place, but I'm not inclined to change it.) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.