From phma@oltronics.net Wed Jun 06 04:33:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 6 Jun 2001 11:33:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 86895 invoked from network); 6 Jun 2001 11:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 6 Jun 2001 11:33:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (207.15.133.37) by mta2 with SMTP; 6 Jun 2001 11:33:39 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id D86C53C5FD; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 07:00:55 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] More lexing curiosities - la'i within cmene? Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 06:45:17 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010606014235.00aea130@127.0.0.1> In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010606014235.00aea130@127.0.0.1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01060607005200.09928@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Wed, 06 Jun 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: >It is true that the rule prohibiting "la" is overkill and eliminates some >things that could cause problems, but the idea was to keep the rules as >simple as possible. That is also why we use Type 3 fu'ivla. No mistakes >when doing ad hoc work. Do you mean "eliminates some things that could not cause problems"? >>So the rule should be that if any of the lerpoi "la", "lai", "la'i", or "doi" >>occurs in a word ending in a consonant, with the lerpoi immediately >>followed by >>a consonant and either preceded by a vowel or at the beginning of the >>word, the >>lerpoi falls off and becomes a separate cmavo, and anything that preceded the >>lerpoi falls off from it. > >Too much rule. No, it may be worded too prolixly, but it's the right rule. The rule in the refgram is unclear. Here's the way the rule should be: Names are not permitted to have the sequences ``la'', ``lai'', or ``doi'' embedded in them, unless the sequence is immediately preceded by a consonant or followed by a vowel or apostrophe. The stuff about falling off is for the lexer. phma