From richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com Thu Jun 07 15:48:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 7 Jun 2001 22:48:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 95831 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2001 22:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 7 Jun 2001 22:48:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scrabble.freeuk.net) (212.126.144.6) by mta3 with SMTP; 7 Jun 2001 22:48:37 -0000 Received: from du-008-0006.freeuk.com ([212.126.151.6] helo=rrbcurnow.freeuk.com) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 1588Zv-0004bm-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 07 Jun 2001 23:48:35 +0100 Received: from richard by rrbcurnow.freeuk.com with local (Exim 2.02 #2) id 1588Fb-00004T-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:27:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 23:27:35 +0100 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] More lexing curiosities - la'i within cmene? Message-ID: <20010607232735.A198@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i-nntp In-Reply-To: ; from jjllambias@hotmail.com on Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:11:37AM +0000 From: Richard Curnow On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:11:37AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la lojbab cusku di'e > > >That may be true, but I hope Curnow wants his computer programs to follow > >the rules. > > Well, if it follows the strict rule, he will be unable to handle > some otherwise perfectly acceptable words like ala'um. What does > he have to lose by accepting such words? > I'd certainly like my programs to at least have a mode which calls for the strictest interpretation of the 'rules'. My initiation of this thread was an attempt to clarify what the rule actually is for a corner case that didn't seem to be explicitly described in the materials I had read. Having said that, I am also interested in considering "backward-compatible" extensions that my software can be programmed to recognize on an optional basis. I'm not sure yet whether there is scope for any such options regarding cmene (I need to do more thinking based on everyone's contributions!). However, one "research topic" I'm looking into is that of words containing both "y" and consonant triples like "rln". Such words are currently illegal (neither lujvo nor fu'ivla), yet it's interesting to consider what future uses such a form may have. -- Richard P. Curnow, Weston-super-Mare, UK http://www.rrbcurnow.freeuk.com/ email:richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com email:rpc@myself.com