From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Jun 08 20:25:42 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 9 Jun 2001 03:25:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 40212 invoked from network); 9 Jun 2001 03:25:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jun 2001 03:25:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.72) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jun 2001 03:25:42 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 20:25:42 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.87 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:25:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.87] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] An approach to attitudinals Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2001 03:25:42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Jun 2001 03:25:42.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[DCE83C80:01C0F093] From: "Jorge Llambias" la kreig cusku di'e >I would interpret the attitudinal a'o as seperate from the bridi - meaning >that I claim the bridi as a fact while expressing a hopeful emotion. That's what Lojbab says too, but the example in the book uses the other meaning, usage so far has favoured the other meaning, and as far as I can tell, the other meaning is much more useful. >Now the example >presented here is not all that ambiguous. When was the last time we had an >honest prez to make us hopeful? I don't know about you, our last president has just been detained due to some dubious arms dealings during his presidency. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.