From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Jun 09 17:12:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 84290 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 17:12:54 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.38 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.38] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Strange question Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 00:12:54.0290 (UTC) FILETIME=[18390720:01C0F142] From: "Jorge Llambias" la kreig cusku di'e >I'm hoping to translate the emerald tablet of Hermes, but it has all those >problems, which might make it a more fun translation once I know what to do >about them. Just put on your best asbestos suit and go for it. > 'ganai temci fa le bavli gi nu mi'o ba jmive kei temci le purci > .i ganai le fonxa na janbe gi dunli mi' > -la djmi.byfet > >And if you don't like my translation, suggest alternatives - it's my first >try on any of these quotes. Ok. In your second sentence, {nai} and {na} cancel out, so you could just say {ga le fonxa cu janbe gi dunli mi}, "either the phone rings or [it] is equal to me". You probably mean {du mi}, "[the caller] is me", i.e. it is you, not something that is equal to you in some respect. I would suggest {va'o le nu le fonxa na janbe kei mi co'e}. As for the first sentence, I can't even guess. {djmi} is not a valid cmene, it has to end in a consonant. You could run it toghether {djmibyfet}. {y} does not count as a syllable for stress purposes, so the stress falls on the {i}. (I think you want the stress on the j and the y, which is really weird for Lojban.) mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.