From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Jun 10 10:41:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 10 Jun 2001 17:41:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 70921 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2001 17:41:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 10 Jun 2001 17:41:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 17:41:29 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 10:41:29 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.228 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:41:28 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.228] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] An approach to attitudinals Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 17:41:28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Jun 2001 17:41:29.0121 (UTC) FILETIME=[94626110:01C0F1D4] From: "Jorge Llambias" la kreig cusku di'e >Uh... since when is an attitudinal? It is a member of selmaho UI. That is what I understand as "attitudinal". >It's not even in the same chapter of the reference grammar. It serves a >completely different purpose from attitudinals. Not really all that different. Like many other UIs, it changes the use of a proposition from an assertion to something else: question, request, intention, wish, etc. None of those are assertions. >Asking whether something is >true does not imply any opinion on the subject. No, it doesn't. Just that you want to know whether it is true. >Saying you hope it is >implies that you would be pleased to learn it was true. Yes. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.