From rob@twcny.rr.com Sun Jun 10 13:04:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 10 Jun 2001 20:04:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 30897 invoked from network); 10 Jun 2001 20:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Jun 2001 20:04:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.165) by mta2 with SMTP; 10 Jun 2001 20:04:56 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout2-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f5AK3NW25647 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.95.175.101]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:03:19 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 159BNx-0001pc-00 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:00:33 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 16:00:32 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] le jbozgi be la'o Message-ID: <20010610160032.A6975@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Sun, Jun 10, 2001 at 03:31:04PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > e'o sutra doi cakcurnu i ko ti'a zgana ua pa > > D A *C E Bb E *C C G A *G E E E *E E > > C (with 7) C C Am > > > > xajyfi'e noi jbitrixe gi'e me mi rebla stapa > > E B*G D Bb G *G D G D *D G D E *E E > > G - Gm G G C > > > > i ui a'a ro le jukni e le respa ca se ganse > > G CG*E E A D *C G D D *D E E D *E D > > C G C G > > > > gi'e denpa mi le canre i pei do ba kansa dansu > > G D *D E G D *E D G Eb *A E E E *E C > > G Gm6 Am C > > > > i aipei naipei aipei naipei aipei do ba dansu > > G *F Eb F Eb *F Eb F Eb *F Eb A E *E C > > F7 F7 F7 C > > i aipei naipei aipei naipei naipei do ba dansu > > G *F Eb F Eb *F Eb F Eb *F Eb A E *E C > > F7 F7 F7 C > > > > An entirely passable chord progression. The fact that it's almost always major > > tonic (C) or dominant (G) gives it a cheerful sound, except it takes an odd > > turn toward jazz in the last two lines. > > > > (I can see a discussion on how to name chords in Lojban coming on...) > > if a chord is two notes, and each note is a vowel/dipthong, then you can > represent the chord with substituting any valid consonants in between > those vowels. Makes a great memory device! If I'm understanding you, and > G + *F is a chord, then it's named *ai*ei*, where * = any consonant, or > nothing at all. So ".ai dei" is a name of the chord, as is "nai pei"! Sorry if the alignment of the text made you think each chord corresponded to two notes. A chord is typically three notes (and chords with a 6th or 7th are four notes). I made a chord correspond to each accented syllable (the ones I marked with *), putting it and the following three unaccented notes into a 'measure'. A measure does not have to contain all the notes of a chord, but you can usually tell what chord it suggests. There's also a bit of common sense involved - if you see A and C, it's probably A minor, even though it could hypothetically be some Gershwin-esque chord like G-dominant-13-flat-5. The chords I used are: C Am G Gm Gm6 or (in this case, both) F7 A chord could be named by its notes, but you'd just have to use longer names. So perhaps G would be "mijyste" or "tigypre" and F7 would be . -- Rob Speer