From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Jun 10 19:53:56 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 11 Jun 2001 02:53:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 34269 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 02:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Jun 2001 02:53:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.57) by mta2 with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 02:53:55 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 19:53:55 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.59 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:53:54 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.59] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] selma'o Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 02:53:54 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 02:53:55.0241 (UTC) FILETIME=[C102E990:01C0F221] From: "Jorge Llambias" la kreig cusku di'e > Why do we need selma'o? I've been learning better by ignoring them, How do you manage to write any grammatical sentence by ignoring selma'o? Words in a given selma'o are all the words that can occupy a given position in a sentence. For example, you can't use {mi} as a gadri, that's why {mi} and {le} belong to different selma'o. >and I'm >sure if we had native speakers then when they were little babies learning >lojban., all selma'o would do is confuse them. Of course, little babies would not learn about selma'o until they go to school, just as we don't teach little babies about verbs and nouns and articles and prepositions. >They probably wouldn't even >learn them! They don't seem to serve any real purpose, either. Is there >something I'm missing, or was it just "Hey, let's put the cmavo in these >groups we don't need for no reason!" It would be great if you can learn Lojban just from imitation, ignoring what selma'o are for, and still use the language correctly, it would show that the language is quite robust. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.