From cowan@ccil.org Tue Jun 12 04:28:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: cowan@mercury.ccil.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 Jun 2001 11:28:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 47360 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 11:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2001 11:28:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.ccil.org) (192.190.237.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 11:28:34 -0000 Received: from cowan by mercury.ccil.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 159mLZ-0001Br-00; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:28:33 -0400 Subject: Re: [lojban] Letterals for notes and chords In-Reply-To: <20010611220844.A1417@twcny.rr.com> from Rob Speer at "Jun 11, 2001 10:08:44 pm" To: rob@twcny.rr.com Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 07:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-eGroups-From: John Cowan From: John Cowan Rob Speer scripsit: > Keep in mind > that {l.bu} and {r.bu} are valid, unless there's some rule against one-letter > cmene I don't know about. There is not. Indeed, before ".y." was introduced into the language as a hesitation noise, there was some use of "r." for this purpose. At that time, bare cmene were vocatives, and pycyn. said this was an invocation of the god R, Lord of Hesitation. The other gods of Loglandia/Lojbanistan are la jig .e la talen, from an early Loglan translation exercise, and of course la zipf. > (Side topic: are one-letter cmene usable? How do you pronounce {la d.}?) As best you can. :-) There are other names with problematic pronunciations already: la rl., for example, can be pronounced with syllabic r, syllabic l, or both. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore --Douglas Hofstadter