From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Jun 12 10:10:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 Jun 2001 17:10:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 90609 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.197) by mta2 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 10:10:41 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: zi'o and modals Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2001 17:10:41.0603 (UTC) FILETIME=[9C010130:01C0F362] From: "Jorge Llambias" la lojbab cusku di'e >I don't see why "botpi fo noda" doesn't work. A toy airplane, a soccer football and a banana are all instances of {lo botpi be fo noda}, they are all members of {lo'i botpi be fo no da}. (That is not what we usually mean by "a bottle without a cap" in English.) >It actually DOES have a cap, >potentially (as do most botpi), but there is no cap on it. If it actually DOES have a cap, then it is a {botpi be fo ba'e su'o da}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.