From rob@twcny.rr.com Tue Jun 12 12:52:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 12 Jun 2001 19:52:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 44163 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2001 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Jun 2001 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.166) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Jun 2001 19:50:44 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f5CJnH826804 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:49:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.95.175.101]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:49:17 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 159u7U-0000mG-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:46:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:46:31 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: zi'o and modals Message-ID: <20010612154631.A2979@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Tue, Jun 12, 2001 at 05:15:06PM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > la rab cusku di'e > > >I now see that because zi'o actually eradicates the place it is not > >necessary > >to switch it back, so it is simply a {zilvelbotpi}. > > But if you don't switch it back, the place for the bottle is x3, > isn't it? Wouldn't it have to be {terzilvelbotpi} to have it > back in x1? True. Anyway, what I intended to say is that a Klein bottle didn't necessarily contain nothing - it could potentially contain everything. -- Rob Speer