From rob@twcny.rr.com Tue Jun 12 19:47:53 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 Jun 2001 02:47:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 92497 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 02:47:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jun 2001 02:47:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.168) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 02:47:52 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-1 [24.92.226.139]) by mailout3-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f5D2kQA17710 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:46:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.95.175.101]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:46:26 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15A0dC-0001D9-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:43:42 -0400 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 22:43:42 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE: zi'o and modals Message-ID: <20010612224342.A4642@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Wed, Jun 13, 2001 at 02:38:32AM +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > Zero is a number and black is a color, I don't see anything > surreal in that, and of course the null set is a set, if that > is surreal then the whole of mathematics is. I don't think shoes > are vehicles, not normally, and using klama for walking shows > that x5 of klama is not really for vehicles, or that klama "really" > is an at most four place predicate. The shoes don't matter; you can walk barefoot. I think that the 'vehicle' involved is your legs. Legs may not be a vehicle as the word is defined in English, but they are a xelkla, because they are a means by which one can klama. -- Rob Speer