From phma@oltronics.net Wed Jun 13 16:25:49 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 13 Jun 2001 23:25:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 47032 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 23:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jun 2001 23:25:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (207.15.133.28) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 23:21:29 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id E5D023C595; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:18:01 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: HTML was Re: [lojban] Attitudinals Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:08:22 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01061319180009.08991@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >This is an old and tired argument, but, since most people use Microsoft >everything, shouldn't people who want to have users meet their standards >rather than asking the vast majority to conform to the miniscule minorities >inferior "standards"? Why, for example, doesn't HTML have "smart quotes"? HTML does have smart quotes, em-dashes, ellipses, etc. but the 0x80-0x9f range is not where they are. They are denoted by character references, such as A which is just A, and entity references, such as —. You can find a list of them on http://www.mikodocs.com/. — will display as an em dash in both Windows and Unix (it doesn't work on kfm, but that should be fixed in Konqueror). As to Demoronizer, HTML Tidy is better. Instead of replacing — (the Windows-only em dash) with a hyphen, it puts the proper character or entity reference, and similarly with other characters. phma