From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Jun 13 19:48:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 14 Jun 2001 02:47:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 67094 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2001 02:47:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Jun 2001 02:47:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.179) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Jun 2001 02:47:59 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:47:59 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.51 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:47:58 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.51] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 02:47:58 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jun 2001 02:47:59.0064 (UTC) FILETIME=[6BF3DD80:01C0F47C] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e > Certainly it is bad to assume that {.ui ko'a klama} means the same as > > {mi gleki lenu ko'a klama}. > >Everybody's agreeing on this, but nobody has explained why to my >satisfaction. The first one asserts that ko'a goes. The second one asserts that you are happy about ko'a going. Those are two different assertions. In the first one you are displaying your feeling of happiness about ko'a going. In the second one you are not necessarily displaying any feeling at all. They are clearly different assertions. I'm not sure why this is such a big deal though. As far as I can tell, both are appropriate in approximately the same circumstances. That does not mean they have the same meaning. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.