From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Jun 15 02:37:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 09:37:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 86941 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 09:37:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 09:37:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 09:37:38 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (143.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.143]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5F9bab65761 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:37:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010615054015.00e09d60@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:42:58 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [lojban] .ui, Propositional Adjuster (was: An approach to attitudinals In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010614154055.00ce2b20@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 03:43 PM 06/14/2001 -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > >Am I to understand that ".ui mi klama" can mean "I am going, and I am > > >happy about it", and ALSO mean "I would be happy if I went, not asserting > > >that I am going"? > > > > Given some contexts, it might. I might be describing a dream, or telling a > > story, or the next sentence might start .ijanai or something else that > > removes assertiveness. > >Wouldn't you appreciate a simple scheme that removed this ambiguity? No, because I don't want people to have to THINK (i.e. "reason") while they are attitudinally emoting. They should express what they feel at the time they feel it, and the few rules we have for attitudinal expression are really just conventions that attempt to describe the pragmatics that realistically will apply if someone just expresses things naturally. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org