From xod@sixgirls.org Fri Jun 15 12:29:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: xod@reva.sixgirls.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 15 Jun 2001 19:29:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 30897 invoked from network); 15 Jun 2001 19:29:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 15 Jun 2001 19:29:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO reva.sixgirls.org) (64.152.7.13) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jun 2001 19:29:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [[UNIX: localhost]]) by reva.sixgirls.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5FJTGs10208 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:29:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 15:29:16 -0400 (EDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] If it ain't broke, don't fix it (was an approach to attitudinals) In-Reply-To: <20010615115540.G14438@digitalkingdom.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Invent Yourself On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Robin Lee Powell wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2001 at 09:11:54PM -0400, Invent Yourself wrote: > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 pycyn@aol.com wrote: > > > > > In a message dated 6/14/2001 6:30:41 PM Central Daylight Time, > > > lojbab@lojban.org writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > >.a'unaicai pe'idai le nu fanva la .alis. cu palci .ianai .u'e > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back to the beginning then. I would like to point out that I understood from > > > the beginning what xod meant to say and my point was -- and still is -- that > > > he failed to say it. None of the attitudinals involved are problematic in > > > the sense of changing the truth value of the claim, which remains that > > > translating Alice is evil. xod expresses strong repulsion for this > > > situation, disbelief in it and wonder at it. He also gives as his support > > > for the claim that I (or someone unspecified) think it. But he still asserts > > > it. > > > > > > > > Give it up. You are wrong. The Book clearly shows that a'u is a > > propositional attitude indicator. Page 302. > > You weren't using .a'u. You were using pe'idai. Much less obvious. Do you see "a'u" in the sentence above? ----- We do not like And if a cat those Rs and Ds, needed a hat? Who can't resist Free enterprise more subsidies. is there for that!