From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Jun 16 05:23:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 16 Jun 2001 12:23:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 23492 invoked from network); 16 Jun 2001 12:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Jun 2001 12:23:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Jun 2001 12:23:19 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (5.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.5]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5GCNHD82049 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:23:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010616082710.00ae09d0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:28:48 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] hope In-Reply-To: <54.16062102.285bb85b@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 03:13 PM 06/15/2001 -0400, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 6/15/2001 1:46:10 PM Central Daylight Time, >rob@twcny.rr.com writes: >> > .a'o mi klama .i >> > mi .a'o klama .i >> > mi klama .a'o .i >> > >> > .a'o du'u mi klama >> >>To be really picky, "a'o" applies to the entire text there (because it >>occurred >>at the beginning of the text) and the other ones are redundant. There would >>need to be a .i before the first .a'o. > >Well, to be really really picky (not the best thing to do with a poet, by the >way) an initial {.i} would be improper, since there is no preceding sentence >({.i} does not begin a sentence, it continues a discourse). Except that .i is legal at the beginning of a discourse (we built it into the grammar). Partly because some discourses are implicit continuations of others, and partly because it resolved some scope issues like this one. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org