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Subject: kona, but not the coffee
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From: thinkit8@lycos.com

when you say "ko na bacru", are you saying "shut up", or just 
saying "it is not true that i am asking you to utter"? what it be 
any different for the prenex version (na ku zo'u ko bacru)?

i think it should be the latter. then to say shut up, just use ko 
na'e bacru.