From rob@twcny.rr.com Sun Jun 17 21:30:39 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@twcny.rr.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 18 Jun 2001 04:30:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 3758 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2001 04:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Jun 2001 04:30:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com) (24.92.226.166) by mta3 with SMTP; 18 Jun 2001 04:30:38 -0000 Received: from mail1.twcny.rr.com (mail1-0 [24.92.226.74]) by mailout4-0.nyroc.rr.com (8.11.2/RoadRunner 1.03) with ESMTP id f5I4TD802984 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from riff ([24.95.175.101]) by mail1.twcny.rr.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-59787U250000L250000S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:01:07 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15BqBB-0001m7-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:58:21 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 23:58:21 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] hexadecimal and lojban Message-ID: <20010617235821.A6695@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: <9gjrds+cang@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9gjrds+cang@eGroups.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com From: Rob Speer On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:09:48AM -0000, thinkit8@lycos.com wrote: > now please don't tell me dau-vai will ever be taken out. it'd be > nice if they weren't relegated to look different than 0-9, which is a > decimal bias, but it shouldn't be too much a problem. not enough 2- > letter cmavo to go around anyway. by the way, i continually annoy > all sorts of newsgroups and IRC with rantings on the evils of decimal. I find Lojban's hex cmavo useful, but not for communicating in Lojban - rather, I'm trying to impress them into my brain so I can remember hex numbers more clearly, having a way to mentally recall them with a sound attached. When setting up my sound card in Linux (before there was a real Linux driver for it), I had to remember its three IO addresses - 220, 240, and 2A0. I thought I had remembered these well enough that when I did it again months later, I didn't need to look for them in the manual. I dug these numbers out of my subconscious - two-twenty, two-forty, and two-ay-ee. Two-eighty. Right. My almost-perfect memory was rewarded with a loud staticky noise from my speakers on bootup. So I suppose the hex cmavo are useful, if only so that in future situations like that I can remember "rereno, revono, redauno" and save my eardrums. I doubt the Lojban creators intended the hex cmavo to primarily be a memory trick, though. -- Rob Speer