From thinkit8@lycos.com Mon Jun 18 00:36:03 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 18 Jun 2001 07:36:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 49107 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2001 07:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Jun 2001 07:36:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hi.egroups.com) (10.1.10.41) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Jun 2001 07:36:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.10.103] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2001 07:36:01 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:35:59 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: hexadecimal and lojban Message-ID: <9gkb0v+m4ua@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20010617235821.A6695@twcny.rr.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1630 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.5.121.32 From: thinkit8@lycos.com --- In lojban@y..., Rob Speer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2001 at 03:09:48AM -0000, thinkit8@l... wrote: > > now please don't tell me dau-vai will ever be taken out. it'd be > > nice if they weren't relegated to look different than 0-9, which is a > > decimal bias, but it shouldn't be too much a problem. not enough 2- > > letter cmavo to go around anyway. by the way, i continually annoy > > all sorts of newsgroups and IRC with rantings on the evils of decimal. > > I find Lojban's hex cmavo useful, but not for communicating in Lojban - rather, > I'm trying to impress them into my brain so I can remember hex numbers more > clearly, having a way to mentally recall them with a sound attached. > > When setting up my sound card in Linux (before there was a real Linux driver > for it), I had to remember its three > IO addresses - 220, 240, and 2A0. I thought I had remembered these well enough > that when I did it again months later, I didn't need to look for them in the > manual. I dug these numbers out of my subconscious - two-twenty, two-forty, and > two-ay-ee. Two-eighty. Right. > > My almost-perfect memory was rewarded with a loud staticky noise from my > speakers on bootup. > > So I suppose the hex cmavo are useful, if only so that in future situations > like that I can remember "rereno, revono, redauno" and save my eardrums. I > doubt the Lojban creators intended the hex cmavo to primarily be a memory > trick, though. > -- > Rob Speer dang keep replying to you. anyway, i was hoping the creators really made dau-vai with the hope of hexadecimal as default in the future.