From thinkit8@lycos.com Tue Jun 19 16:40:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: thinkit8@lycos.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 19 Jun 2001 23:40:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 39684 invoked from network); 19 Jun 2001 23:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 19 Jun 2001 23:40:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fl.egroups.com) (10.1.10.48) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Jun 2001 23:40:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: thinkit8@lycos.com Received: from [10.1.2.163] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2001 23:40:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:40:22 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: possible worlds Message-ID: <9gont6+sd4m@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9god7p+gpgj@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1312 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 24.5.121.32 From: thinkit8@lycos.com --- In lojban@y..., "A.W.T." wrote: > Am I missing something in the Book or is the problem with possible worlds (i.e. the subjunctive etc. issue) still unsolved? Up to > the moment I'm unsatisfied with sentences like "I should have done...", "If I were rich..." (Se fossi ricco mi comprarei una villa...) > and the like. > Are those venerable old gentlemen still sticking to the "dead language"* Loglan more aware of problems like those! Isn't e.g. the way > pointed out at "http://www.loglan.org/Articles/I-would-if-I- could.html" a possible approach? IMHO, lojban attitudinals, > evidentials, discursives etc. are very good and unique lojbanic features, yet do not solve here. The heavy discussion on extending > their functional range (which I do not share) shows that there still is lack of things the kind mentioned above. > > *) It no longer seems to be a dead language, as Loglan obviously is present and vivid on the net with productive essays instead of > whole surges of endless and boring threads most (interested!) people can no longer afford the time to follow. > > mi'e .aulun. how about this? "if i were rich i'd have a house" goes to "fau le nu mi ricfu kei mi ponse lo zdani". i don't like using the UI cmavo to do this either, but i think there are substitutes.