From jjllambias@hotmail.com Thu Jun 21 17:44:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 86826 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.154) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:44:00 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.229 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.229] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: kona, but not the coffee Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jun 2001 00:44:00.0310 (UTC) FILETIME=[6D6A1560:01C0FAB4] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >But 1) {ko} is specific to imperative mode: its primary use is exactly >coextensive with that mode. Coextensive with the imperative mode of what language? The three languages I know enough about to speak of (Spanish, English and Esperanto) vary somewhat on their use of their imperatives, and they are all pretty close as languages go, so I'm sure there is even more variety in general. Lojban ko is closest to English in that English does imperative only in the second person, and ko is basically a second person pronoun. The more generous and regular Esperanto imperative mode is better understood in Lojbanic terms as the whole e-series attitudinals. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.