From lojbab@lojban.org Fri Jun 22 07:03:52 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 22 Jun 2001 14:03:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 21786 invoked from network); 22 Jun 2001 14:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Jun 2001 14:02:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Jun 2001 14:02:52 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (58.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.58]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5ME2pb34039 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010622100343.00e4f350@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:07:33 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: possible worlds In-Reply-To: <9gv8lu+pbes@eGroups.com> References: <9gont6+sd4m@eGroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 11:03 AM 06/22/2001 +0000, Adam Raizen wrote: >thinkit8@lycos.com wrote: > > how about this? "if i were rich i'd have a house" goes to > > "fau le nu mi ricfu kei mi ponse lo zdani". i don't like using the > > UI cmavo to do this either, but i think there are substitutes. > >I can't bring myself to use "fau" for anything. Since "fasnu" only has >one place, I have no idea what the relationship is supposed to be >between things tagged with "fau" and the rest of the sentence. What is the relationship between the event and the sentence in the English phrase "In the event of blah, i will do blecch". There is clearly some relationship between the event and the rest of the sentence, but it is vague what that relationship is other than the event occurring is necessary. Thus fau associates an event with a bridi and says that its occurrence is in some way important to the truth of that bridi. Works rather like the English. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org