From araizen@newmail.net Sat Jun 23 14:11:21 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 23 Jun 2001 21:11:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 40299 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2001 21:11:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Jun 2001 21:11:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ci.egroups.com) (10.1.2.81) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Jun 2001 21:11:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: araizen@newmail.net Received: from [10.1.10.67] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Jun 2001 21:11:20 -0000 Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 21:11:17 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: kona, but not the coffee Message-ID: <9h30ll+etij@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <80.c0cce54.2865344d@aol.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 1022 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.0.181.249 From: "Adam Raizen" la pycyn cusku di'e > "ko" is not a UI (thank ya, Jesus!), for example, > nor clearly connected with any of the emotions listed in the book. i pe'i le nu cusku zo ko pe seba'i zo do cu jarco le nu cinmo da i lo nu cpecni a lo nu bigycni a lo simsa i pe'i su'o le selcni valsi cu mapti ro te pilno be zo ko > Nor is commanding an act who > primary function is to express an emotion -- its primary function is to get > someone to do something; the rest is incidental, if it occurs at all. i ki'u ma le tavla cu djica le nu le se tavla cu gasnu da i na xu srana le nu le tavla cu cinmo da pe le se djica > As for using > only the emotion words, I'm not sure (and I don't know how to settle it) > whether any emotion word or combination of them has exactly the force of an > imperative -- certainly none has the rehetorical force in any language I > know of, but Lojban may be odd. i xu do djuno le du'u makau smuni zoi zoi imperative zoi poi se pilno do i le du'u simsa le glibau na se zanru mu'o mi'e adam