From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sun Jun 24 10:40:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 24 Jun 2001 17:40:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 11396 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Jun 2001 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.115) by mta3 with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 17:40:09 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:40:09 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.215 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:40:08 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.215] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] koko & jai Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:40:08 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jun 2001 17:40:09.0175 (UTC) FILETIME=[B6841670:01C0FCD4] From: "Jorge Llambias" la aulun cusku di'e >1) ko ko kurji: > >Isn't it pleonasm using {ko} two times here? Yes, which doesn't make it wrong or bad, does it? >2) Is it the fact that {jai} only can be used to go around a 1-place >abstraction? And also, not allowed to go with {se} etc.? Both {jai se broda} and {se jai broda} are allowed. >le nu do tavla bau la lojban cu fenki -> tu'a do fenki -> do jai fenki fai >tavla bau la lojban. It should be: {fai le nu tavla bau la lojban}. >but >mi djuno le du'u do tavla bau la lojban. -> mi djuno tu'a do //-> mi jai >djuno do fai... No, it should be: {do jai se djuno mi fai le du'u tavla bau la lojban} or {mi se jai se djuno do fai le du'u ...} >or: mi morji zo'e do -> mi morji tu'a do -> mi jai morji do ???? {mi se jai se morji do}. >Since {jai} switches the places, I fear there arise heavy problems with >some of the above constructions. {jai} switches the first place with the fai-place. It combines with se, te, etc the same way that they do among themselves. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.