From edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu Sun Jun 24 13:46:32 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Edward.Cherlin.SY.67@aya.yale.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 24 Jun 2001 20:46:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 43061 invoked from network); 24 Jun 2001 20:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 24 Jun 2001 20:46:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pltn13.pbi.net) (64.164.98.22) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Jun 2001 20:46:31 -0000 Received: from mcp.aya.yale.edu ([216.103.90.93]) by mta8.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GFG004CYCDG5H@mta8.pltn13.pbi.net> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 13:46:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 14:00:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [lojban] mnemonic, not sure what it means In-reply-to: X-Sender: cherlin@postoffice.pacbell.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010624124057.00b18840@postoffice.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii From: Edward Cherlin At 07:00 AM 6/23/2001, michael helsem wrote: >for NO >PA RE CI VO MU XA ZE BI SO: NA >PURCI VE MIXYZBASU Uhh, "Not before (4th conversion) mass-make" hey nonny nonny? Actually, I find the utterance noparecivo.muxazebiso just as mnemonic. Or you could try memorizing a few useful constants. Pi ~ 3.14159 cipipavopamuso e ~ 2.7182818 repizepabirebipabi log 2 ~ 0.30103 nopicinopanoci beast = xaxaxa That covers all of the digits. Here are a few more. 2Pi ~ 6.28319 xapirebicipaso PI/4 ~ 0.785398 nopizebimucisobi 180/Pi ~ 57.2958 muzepipasomubi Countdown sobizexamuvocirepano Gross pavovo Great gross pazerebi Conversions in-cm repimuvo lb-gm vomuvo Powers of 2 pa vo bi paxa cire xavo parebi remuxa mupare panorevo vonosoxa xamumucixa panovobimuzexa paxazezezerepaxa voresovosoxazeresoxa Factorials pa re xa revo pareno zereno munovono Golden ratio papixapabi Approximate length of year cixamupiremu Length of day bixavonono Square roots pa papivopavorepa papizecirenomu re repirecixanoze Dates panoxaxa pavomuci pavosore pazezexa pabipare Actually, my recommendation is to take any old list of numbers that has some interest to you (stock market quotes? atomic weights? dates of Chinese dynasties? poker probabilities? letter frequencies by language?), write out some conversions, and then practice saying them. Even a few minutes of this hammers the digits into your brain better than any possible mnemonic. Do it until you don't have to look or count in order to get the digit names, then practice some more on license plate numbers while you drive, or anything else that comes handy. Edward Cherlin Generalist "A knot! Oh, do let me help undo it." Alice in Wonderland