From edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu Tue Jun 26 11:43:00 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Edward.Cherlin.SY.67@aya.yale.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_3); 26 Jun 2001 18:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 94317 invoked from network); 26 Jun 2001 18:42:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 26 Jun 2001 18:42:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pltn13.pbi.net) (64.164.98.22) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Jun 2001 18:42:23 -0000 Received: from mcp.aya.yale.edu ([216.103.90.93]) by mta8.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GFJ00D4MVYHKQ@mta8.pltn13.pbi.net> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:52:43 -0700 Subject: Alis in Yiddishland X-Sender: cherlin@postoffice.pacbell.net To: mendele@lists.yale.edu Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com, Martin Jacobs Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010626111139.00af8848@postoffice.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii From: Edward Cherlin Martin Jacobs recently requested information from the Mendele list on Yiddish translations of Lewis Carroll. I have witnessed a performance of Jabberwocky recited in Yiddish under the title "Yomervokhets", with simultaneous translation into juggling, at the KlezmerMania show in Berkeley CA. A quick search on Google for "yiddish jabberwocky" returns 96 hits, including Refoyl Finkel's Alis in Vunderland, Kapitel 1, Arof dem krolik-lokh. It was published in Der Bavebter Yid, and is now available at http://www.cs.uky.edu/~raphael/bavebter/numer.1.2/sholem.alis.html. Mr. Jacobs might also be interested in the translation currently underway into the artificial language Lojban. I can send him a copy when it is done. See http://www.lojban.org for general information on Lojban. It was designed to make mathematical logic speakable, so it is ideal for much of Carroll. It is also conceivable that it could be applied to Talmudic studies, although perhaps not likely. Edward Cherlin Generalist "A knot! Oh, do let me help to undo it." Alice in Wonderland