From pycyn@aol.com Mon Jul 02 15:34:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 2 Jul 2001 22:34:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 38018 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2001 22:34:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 2 Jul 2001 22:34:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-d06.mx.aol.com) (205.188.157.38) by mta1 with SMTP; 2 Jul 2001 22:34:03 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-d06.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v30.22.) id r.6c.c79c700 (4406) for ; Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <6c.c79c700.287250d6@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 18:33:58 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Not talking about imaginary worlds To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_6c.c79c700.287250d6_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10519 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_6c.c79c700.287250d6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit b. gohla's hierarchy is about the way that such ideas get developed. The only major objection might be that "if p then q" usually means something like "q is true in all (or most or the uppermost or some such thing) worlds in which p is true" Again, I think that all of this superstructure is misguided -- at least until it can be shown that we really need it. I think tha simply considering what we *do* with language is kore natural and effective than creating new things for descriptive langauge to be *about*. --part1_6c.c79c700.287250d6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit b. gohla's hierarchy is about the way that such ideas get developed.  The
only major objection might be that "if p then q" usually means something like
"q is true in all (or most or the uppermost or some such thing) worlds in
which p is true"
Again, I think that all of this superstructure is misguided -- at least until
it can be shown that we really need it.  I think tha simply considering what
we *do* with language is kore natural and effective than creating new things
for descriptive langauge to be *about*. --part1_6c.c79c700.287250d6_boundary--